Posted 07 December 2012 - 11:44 PM
I'm looking for a basic beginners/entry level TQ that is not too expensive.
I'm thinking of adding this TQ along with some other blow-out supplies to kits that I can keep in my various shooting bags and give to my shooting friends as well.
A few of my friends don't even keep any type of med kits in with their shooting gear and i'm guessing that this TQ is better then not having a TQ
any advice would be appreciative.
Posted 08 December 2012 - 02:34 AM
Do your friends have any first aid or medical training? It's a great idea to have some medical supplies on hand, but I'd be concerned about providing tourniquets to people that aren't familiar with their limitations and dangers. If you can provide some instruction to your friends on the components of the blowout kits you're assembling that would help a lot. That said the SWAT-T Tourniquet is included in the ITS Tactical EDC Trauma Kit and seems to be a good tool for a lightweight cost effective solution. The EDC Trauma Kit would be a great item to carry while on the range. I'd definitely want to make sure that everyone applying tourniquets had some training first.
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 04:36 PM
Basic First Aid training is known by a few of the guys, but anything advanced beyond that is not known to me.
One of the things I liked about the SWAT-T was that it could also be used as a pressure bandage - and i'm sure the same could probably be said about using an ace bandage as well.
Right now I've got Israeli and Olaes Bandages, H&H Gauze rolls and was thinking of the SWAT-T as just a basic starter to each persons blow out kit for their range bags.
I know that Wal-Mart carried an inexpensive version of Quik-Clot Basic at one time, so I need to see if they still carry it.
Hoping that some night as a group we can all sit down and work on adding and updating our own bags.
This is usually a group of 6-8 guys that I constantly shoot with, so it would be nice to see if everyone would continue to upgrade their bags as well as their own medical training
Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:19 PM
Before you buy any additional medical gear, invest in training! Where ever you are, I'm sure there is a course near by.
The bottom line is, these things aren't magic, so if you don't know how to use them correctly they're just extra weight...and you could hurt someone.
I've only been doing this trauma medicine thing for the last 30yrs, but in my opinion, you do a lot better with training than without...
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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:17 PM
I agree with the previous posters on the need for training. Medical training is something that will always pay off. There is nothing worse than standing around not knowing what to do when your buddy is fucked up. That being said, there is an old stigmata surrounding the use of tourniquets in the civilian world that is rapidly going away. After the last ten years of combat and the countless lives saved by the use of tourniquets in the hands of basically trained servicemen and women, they have proven extremely useful.
Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:13 AM
That said, we used SOF-T tourneys -- they can be deployed quickly and with one hand for self-tourneying. Some of the ITS alliance vendors may sell it, or you can just google SOF-T and find it. (EDIT/UPDATE -- ITS sells SOF-T's in the online shop.)
Finally, I or someone else on here, can probably put you in touch with a training cadre for the TC3 training if it is something you and your team want. My guys require a minimum group of 6 to put on the course. Not sure on the cost, but can find out for you.
Edited by WarrenPeace, 14 December 2012 - 10:43 AM.
Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:49 PM
All that being said. With the right training and the ability to improvise you can do the same thing with a cravat and a pen/pencil. When it comes to Medical, training and the ability to improvise is key.
Posted 14 December 2012 - 05:01 PM
Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:54 PM
1. Run the cravat through the key ring and slide to the side
2. Tie the caribiner down on the top side with a secure knot
3. Torque the caribiner down as tight as needed
4. Clip the caribiner into the key ring to kepp in place
Heres his video
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:13 PM
FYI Private Bloggins is the blog for http://www.ctoms.ca/home, CTOMS is a Canadian company that focuses primarily on combat med training and gear. I have no association with them.
Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:22 PM
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