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#1 ArkansasFan

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 08:26 PM

First, let me say I am diagnosed red-green color blind which precluded me from some childhood dreams, but...anyway.

Second, I'm looking at going to some CQB rifle and other related training courses. That being said, I'd kind of like to buy a diminutive chest rig such as the Haley DC3RX (and the flat pack). I don't want a battle belt. It's certainly not diminutive in price, but it's small, and I don't have to buy a bunch of crap to put on it like shingles, etc. There's no place to attach "extras" if I even wanted.

Third, as much as I feel like a girl for asking, could you help me out with colors?

Multicam: I've never owned any Multicam stuff, but it's mysteriously appealing. Looks cool. Camo kinda makes sense. Plus it kinda hides stains which is kind of a plus. In Arkansas, it would probably work as camo most of the year if not all of it.

Coyote: Don't really like it, but there seems to be a whole lot of brown gear now. Not sure if there's a valid reason to go brown.

Ranger Green: I like it, yet it seems to have fallen out of favor. Not sure why.

Gray: Is there purpose to this fad color? In winter, when it's overcast and among all of our hardwood trees it "might" work as camo. I read a lot that it's camouflaging in an urban environment, but I really don't understand the entire purpose of urban camo. Summers in Arkansas are agreeable to just about any neutral color as camo. Some gray looks neat...I guess.

Black: I have a lot of black gear and junk from when I was in law enforcement. Easily soiled. My backpacks are all black so hey they'd match. Hotter?

Basically, I don't want to spend $400 on rarely​ used gear and think "well, crap, wish I'd gotten that [insert color]." I've been looking at chest rigs for years, and this Haley model is the only I've ever really wanted. I can afford it but wish to have no regrets.

Ideas? Thanks, Crew.

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 12:44 AM

Colors should serve a purpose. As in camo or uniformity.

For training gear, color really doesn't matter. The only time it should, is if this gear may be pressed into service where camo or uniformity matters.

Personally, I try to get gear in a camo pattern that would work best for my AO. Only reason is that if I had to use it for hunting or, crazy make up your own scenario here, then I already have quality gear that works. I can't plan for best camo in an area I don't know I'll be in. So I plan for my AO. Which would be a woodland or hunting pattern. Multi cam works well also. Since multi cam is widely available for all tactical gear now, that's what I buy usually. Not many still use woodland or hunting patterns.

My advice is get a camo pattern that fits your AO best. If multi cam works, that's great because you'll not likely be stuck with a certain brand. If camo is not something you need, pick a color you like and don't worry if different manufacturers don't exactly match. Quality should come first.
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#3 DStevenson

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 05:12 AM

Bleh, don't listen to pira114... Ranger green is your answer.

 

I'm joking.. I'm joking.. sort of.

 

I went through a similar battle when I decided to set up a rig and gear at home and made the decision to go with possibly the most unlikely camo pattern for my area.

I live in a lush green area when it's not the dead of winter and Multicam is my best bet if not Ranger Green... but instead I went Coyote.

 

Along with my MC clothing I went with FDE/Coyote hardware because at the time I thought it looked cool.  But being realistic it was based solely on the appearance and not it's function.

 

I'm just not a fan of a full MC setup though.


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#4 ArkansasFan

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 06:30 PM

Thanks for the replies, guys. At this point, I don't believe I'll be buying any Multicam clothing, or other camo, although I do agree that being ready for [insert fantasy scenario] is good.

...Maybe a Multicam hat like the ITS Crew cover or something.

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:30 PM

I actually really like Ranger green. Good luck finding matching colors if it's not all the same brand. Even then sometimes it looks different. I don't know why, but Ranger green seems the most inconsistent of the solid colors.

For just looks and nothing else, Ranger green really is my favorite. Followed by grey, then coyote. No reason. Just like the colors on stuff.

Maybe buy each piece of gear in a different color. Then you'll be Multicam naturally. Haha
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:35 AM

I've been a big fan of foliage green. I like it as a "gray man" color. It's not a real tactical color like coyote brown, it doesn't stick out like black, and doesn't scream operator like multicam. It's kinda gray, kinda green. Hard to describe. However, foliage has fallen out of favor. Magpul doesn't even make their furniture sets in it anymore. However my TAD pack and Hill People Gear bag are foliage and I really like them. They match pretty well too. That all being said, my gun has OD green furniture and I use an OD green chest rig. In Minnesota it was a good color to choose. Now I find myself in Northern Arizona mostly, but the color still works. I think by a color that matches closely to your AO. Function first, form a distant second.
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 12:25 PM

Yeah, I agree I think Multicam best matches my area unless it's a city operation, but once you're carrying rifles down the street camo doesn't really matter.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:10 PM

Gear tasting had a pretty solid pod cast today dealing with this very issue. In my area (Northern Prairies) ATACS AU has been the best I've seen for Camo. But generally for something that may have to be a multi purpose piece of kit. I've got a mixed bag of colors for things, mostly to try and avoid looking to regular. I can use my Green Vest and add coyote colors to it to break up the color pattern from a distance and mix in some natural bits if I need to.

 

That said, it really does come down to AO and what you are doing. Green or Grey may be a good starting point to be able to blend into a variety of environments.


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Posted 17 June 2017 - 12:16 AM

I second going with what works best in your specific AOR. As far as solid colors go, I prefer either classic OD Green, or coyote depending on the AOR. I'm also a new convert to the MAS Grey cult in terms of urban ops.

If you are in a transitional environment though, you can't go wrong with multicam. I've heard the ATACS-FG pattern works great in eastern nc as well.
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#10 ArkansasFan

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:27 AM

I think I'll just get the Multicam. It looks cool, and it will work as camo anywhere in my region of the country. Lots of gear is available in that pattern, and it conceals stains better than solid colors. I like green and gray, however.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 06:10 AM

I think I'll just get the Multicam. It looks cool, and it will work as camo anywhere in my region of the country. Lots of gear is available in that pattern, and it conceals stains better than solid colors. I like green and gray, however.

 

 

Hell yeah! Best part.... it *technically* was civilian first!  rofl


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:37 AM

Hell yeah! Best part.... it *technically* was civilian first!  rofl

And I'm a civilian!  

 

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#13 DeathwatchDoc

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:39 PM

Embrace the multicam cult... 


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:59 PM

I'm late to the party, I'm a huge fan of ranger green and ATACS iX. For whatever reason I can't get excited about MC.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:10 PM

I personally also enjoy ATACS LE, in that, the fully admit that camouflage in an urban environment is not what you think it is. ATACS LE was developed to help a team stand out as a show of force, and to further that thought, remind of who not to shoot.


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:44 AM

Hell yeah! Best part.... it *technically* was civilian first!  rofl


Actually, Crye invented multicam specifically to compete in US Army camo trials. According to them anyway

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:49 AM

By the way, ITS has a great piece about camo in general. When you get to the multicam part, it also states the Army had a hand in multicam along with Crye

http://www.itstactic...estern-world-2/

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Posted 25 June 2017 - 01:51 AM

Actually, Crye invented multicam specifically to compete in US Army camo trials. According to them anyway


Well, they created scorpion for the competition back in the early 2000s, then tweaked it to make multicam, and then the army tweaked it again in 2013 or 2014 to make Scorpion W2 to turn into their new OCP camo.

http://soldiersystem...n-camo-history/

http://soldiersystem...or-to-multicam/
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Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:32 AM

Interesting. Thanks for the info

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Posted 26 June 2017 - 09:36 AM

I watched several videos of a YouTuber named Garand Thumb who is apparently an air force survival or SERE specialist.  For whatever reason he keeps that secretive on his YouTube channel but talks openly about it on his Sofrep/Loadout articles.  He's been wearing a Multicam in a lot of videos that somehow seems darker than most.  Sometimes I believe it's our old friend, woodland, until I look more closely.  


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